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- >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
- >Path: news.unomaha.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!psinntp!digex!sgreene
- >From: sgreene@access.digex.com (Stephan Greene)
- >Subject: Summary - Getting onto the Hamsats
- >Message-ID: <1992Mar20.165707.3374@access.digex.com>
- >Keywords: Satellites, OSCAR, AMSAT
- >Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
- >Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 16:57:07 GMT
- >Lines: 249
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- On Wednesday, 11 March 1992, I posted a message to rec.radio.amateur.misc asking for suggestions and advice on
- equipment for using the amateur satellites. This article is a
- summary of the responses I received, as well as some related
- e-mail and news articles.
-
- A big thank-you to those who responded directly to my
- posting or posted a related article:
-
- mbutts@mentorg.com or mbutts@qcktrn.com (Mike Butts), KC7IT
- psmith@mozart.convex.com (Presley Smith), N5VGC
- rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander), VE6PDQ
- gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman), KE4ZV
- Andy MacAllister, WA5ZIB (via CompuServe's Internet gateway)
- Don_R._Moberly.El_Segundo@xerox.COM, WB6LFC
-
- Here's the consensus opinions (any misrepresentations or
- misquotes are my own - so flame me, not the nice folks who contributed!)
-
-
- Antennas:
- ------------
-
- For AO-13, the consensus is get to get KLMs, Telex/Hy-Gains, or
- roll-your own, Nobody liked the Cushcraft satellite antennas -
- they appear to have problems in wet weather. Bigger is also
- better, if you have the space. Several people mentioned the
- KLM 22C and 40CX pair as excellent performers (again - you
- need the room for those long booms!) KE4ZV stated his pair of
- KLMs (the big ones!) lets him work AO-13 with 3 to 30 watts
- (hardline feed and rigorous attention to routing the feedlines a
- nd cables properly to maintain the antenna patterns helps, too.).
- Others mentioned the KLM 14C/18C pair as good performers -
- but you need more power on the uplink.
-
- Telex/Hy-Gain antennas were recommended by several people
- as a less expensive alternative to KLMs that work almost as
- well. There's also M2 (started by an engineer from KLM).
- While no one who responded uses them, the information I
- received from a call to their factory in California suggests
- they are comparable to slightly better than the KLMs in
- performance, and about the same in cost. Dave, WB6LFC, said homebrewing antennas is also feasible - it takes work,
- but attention to detail results in top-notch performance
- for very little money. Finally, Ross, VE6PDQ, reported good
- results using a pair of Cushcraft 215WBs on receive.
-
- Problems encountered with AO-13 antennas include routing
- cables and feedlines off the back of the antennas
- (to preserve antenna patterns), use of fiberglass cross
- booms, mounting preamps as close to the feedpoint as
- possible, and long antenna booms drooping. (Gary, KE4ZV,
- recommends using a rope to brace the boom or stiffening
- booms and fiberglass masts internally with foam-in-a-can
- insulation.)
-
- On antenna rotators, it appears the Alliance UD-100 is no
- longer made, though it should still show up at hamfests.
- People with long-boom antennas report the Alliance
- rotator is too weak to move a big array anyway, and
- recommended Yaesu's elevation-only rotator or their
- Model 5400 azimuth-elevation unit.
-
- Antennas for the low-altitude satellites appear to be much
- less critical. J-poles were most frequently mentioned
- (the design from the AMSAT Journal?), but dipoles, ground-
- planes, and yagis are also in use. Several people work
- RS-10 quite well with antennas in the attic. Best results
- are with steerable antennas, but the high operator
- workload during a pass (unless the satellite is just
- grazing your access circle) almost demands computer
- control of the rotators.
-
-
- Preamps:
- -----------
-
- You need a preamp for AO-13. (I can hear the downlink
- after a fashion on a Ringo fed with cheap coax and a
- 10 dB preamp in the shack, but it's not communications
- quality reception!) Only two people mentioned a specific
- brand name (Advanced Receiver Research and the unit
- included with the Ten-Tec 2510), so I assume almost
- any GAsFET preamp in the 20dB gain class is adequate.
- THE PREAMP MUST (almost always) BE MOUNTED AT THE
- ANTENNA (check the discussion in Chapter 9 of the
- Satellite Experimenter's Handbook and you'll see why!).
- KE4ZV recommends mounting the preamp AT the antenna
- feedpoint, if your elevation rotator can handle the
- unbalanced load.
-
- While no one mentioned it (maybe it's obvious), if the
- antenna is used to transmit (say Mode J) as well as
- receive (on Mode B, for example), the preamp MUST
- either include RF-sensed switching, or be switched
- out of the line before you transmit. TRANSMITTING
- INTO AN UNPROTECTED PREAMP WILL DESTROY IT INSTANTLY!
-
- Preamps also seem to help on RS-10 (especially with
- older HF rigs) and on the Pacsats. It seems to be a
- case of "try it, and get a preamp if it looks like it
- would help").
-
-
- Rigs:
- ------
-
- Three radios were mentioned by name - Yaesu FT736
- (and it's predecessor, the 726 with satellite module),
- Kenwood TR751 (a mobile-capable 2 meter multimode),
- and Ten-Tec's 2510. The Ten-Tec unit is out of production.
- The few units left are selling for about $300-350. I'm
- sure other multi-mode radios, and setups with converters
- and transverters work well, too - it's just that no one
- mentioned any by name.
-
- Power output required is a function of the satellite,
- your antennas, and how badly you want to communicate.
- [QRP on the satellites is just like QRP on HF - you need
- good antennas and feedline, you have to pick optimal
- passes, and skilled operators at both ends are needed.
- Given the apparent "calmer" operating style on AO-13,
- QRP is probably easier there than on 20 meters!]
-
- Anyway -about power for AO-13. 3-30 watts will
- work if you have top-notch antennas (KE4ZV).
- KC7IT uses 50-100 watts (Ten Tec 2510, Mirage D1010
- amplifier, KLM 14C/18C fed with 50 feet of 9913).
- Both KE4ZV and KC7IT use Mirage D1010 amplifiers
- on 70 cm when they need a little extra power.
- For an "optimum station", WA5ZIB recommends
- 60 watts on 70 cm and 80 watts on 2 meters for
- AO-13, assuming good antennas (Telex/Hy-Gain or
- better) and feedlines, and 20 watts to a 5' dish for Mode L.
- Andy emphasized that you can get by and have lots
- of fun with much less!
-
- For Mode A, WA5ZIB said 6 watts to the AO-13 2 meter
- antenna will work well. People using omnis report
- success with the Pacsats running 50-70 watts to a
- J-Pole (N5VGC). Several people said they (or someone
- they know) have no trouble using RS-10 at lower
- power (10-25 watts) with simple, omnidirectional
- antennas. Again, it's a case of "try it and see if it works."
-
- There was unanimous consensus that the receiving
- quipment (antenna, preamp, feedline, and receiver)
- is more important than the transmit equipment.
- Running more power "to hear yourself" is frowned
- upon, to say the least! It's also important to be able
- to vary uplink power to adjust to specific conditions.
- Both the Ten Tec 2510 and the Yaesu 736 have
- continuously variable power output (I guess the
- rest of us just have to fiddle with the drive controls
- on our rigs!).
-
-
- Accessories and Other Stuff:
- ----------------------------------
-
- You need a PSK modem to use the Pacsats. PacCom
- makes fully assembled units, either already integrated
- with their own TNC, or as a board you install in your
- TNC-2 clone. They make similar 9600 bps units for
- accessing UO-22. The downlink receiver (on 70 cm)
- should be capable of being tuned by the PSK modem's
- AFC lines. Newer radios can use the up/down lines from
- the microphone jack or an accessory connection on the
- rear panel. Older radios must be modified, or be tuned
- manually. N5VGC told me he sees about 20KHz of doppler
- on an AO-16 pass, and that without automatic tuning,
- operator workload is too high to do much else besides
- tune the receiver!
-
- Just about any radio suitable for packet on 2 meters
- will work for AO-16, WO18, and LU-19. To run 9600
- bps on UO-22, modifications to bypass the microphone
- and speaker's audio processing circuits are required.
- I've seen some reports on rec.radio.packet and in the
- various Hamsat columns that differences between
- UO14 and UO-22's transmitters make UO-22 more
- difficult to copy. (I'll worry about that problem
- later - I'll start with AO-16 and LU-19 first!)
-
- No one mentioned computers - again, it must be
- obvious (also, we're "talking" using computers!).
- They're handy, and you need one IN THE SHACK when
- working the Pacsats or for automated, real-time
- control of antenna rotators (useful for low altitude satellites).
-
- Other operator aids mentioned, or I thought of on my
- own: If your radio can't slave uplink and downlink
- tuning (Ten Tec 2510 and Yaesu 736 can), you need
- something to help convert between uplink and downlink
- frequencies (and account for doppler shift and calibration
- errors on the radios' frequency readouts). A cardboard
- slide scale or dial will work. I'm thinking of programming
- my HP48 to do the conversion for me. You need something
- like this to know where to tune on the uplink to hear
- a given downlink frequency.
-
- Software to track satellites and predict passes. There
- are many programs that work. Price ranges from free
- to $70 for state-of-the-art QuickTrack or InstantTrack
- (available from AMSAT). Special software is also needed
- to use the Pacsats, and to interpret telemetry data. This
- software is also available from the usual ham sources, and
- from AMSAT (BTW, software sales support the
- amateur satellite program!)
-
- Polarity switchers optimize antenna performance by
- allowing switching antenna feeds from RHCP to LHCP as
- the need arises. They are a very useful add-on, but
- don't appear essential.
-
- Equipment to measure power output, SWR, transmit
- frequency - all useful (see - satellites are not that
- different from HF!).
-
-
- Conclusion:
- ---------------
-
- Finally, there's AMSAT! They're the people who build
- and run several of the satellites (AO-10, AO-13, AO-16),
- and have a hand in many of the others! They're also
- beginning development of the replacement for
- Oscar 13 (known as Phase 3-D). ANYONE INTERESTED IN THE
- AMATEUR SATELLITES SHOULD BECOME AN AMSAT MEMBER.
- Its' the closest place I've found to one-stop-shopping
- for information on the satellites (this newsgroup is number
- two, at least until I get onto the satellites myself!).
- You can reach AMSAT at:
-
- AMSAT
- PO Box 27
- Washington, DC 20044
- (301)589-6062
-
- I know there are several AMSAT members in this
- newsgroup (who even have satellite experience. I'm
- still working on it!) - so you can always ask here!
-
-
- Again, thanks to everyone who answered my query!
- You've helped a great deal. I'll look for you on the birds!
-
- 73, Steve (AMSAT Member 21876)
-
- packet:: KA1LM@N4WJN.VA or KA1LM@WA3ZNW.MD
- Internet: sgreene@access.digex.com
-